Plier Data & Recommendations
The information listed for recommendations for pliers is specific to certain criteria we used. Please read the this page before using this data for your selection. We do not guarantee this data - it is a reference based on 1 persons testing! There are too many variables like technique, experience, hand size, hand strength, ring size, weave etc. Its simply not possible to list the exact plier that YOU should use for all projects. The best we can do is given you data to consider before you purchase.
To determine the maximum size we recommend for a plier a person with moderate hand strength opened and closed rings. The pliers were held in the same way in which they would be used while weaving. (as opposed to a way that maximizes their force on one loose ring) A larger inside diameter ring is easier to open than a tight ring. For example a 14g 1/2" ring is considerably easier to open compared to a 14g 1/4" ring. We used common, mid-sized ID's for our testing. The following is the list we used
Stainless 12g 1/2", 14g 3/8", 16g 5/16", 18g 3/16"
Copper 14g 3/8", 16g 5/16"
Bronze 14g 3/8", 16g 5/16", 18g 3/16"
Aluminum 12g 7/16", 14g 3/8", 16g 5/16", 18g 3/16"
Remember the size listed is the MAX size we recommend. This means while you can weave this size using the plier as noted you will find that if you want to weave a very large project that going to plier where the size you are weaving is less than the max will be easier.
For example you can weave 16g stainless using our brand wide nose plier BUT you will find it a lot easier with any of the flat nose pliers that have a max of 14g.
Please also keep in mind that regardless of recommendation here in some cases you will simply need a plier to close a ring in a weave when that plier is not the best for the job. For example if you are closing a ring in a tight spot in a weave you may need to use a chain nose to be able to get at the ring - even if the ring is 16g stainless.
Please keep all of these factors in mind as you read the data shown. Someone with great hand strength and skill can use an unsuitable plier to open a strong large ring - that isn't the point of this data.
ROUND NOSE PLIERS: the test was to make a loop at the end of a piece of wire.
NYLON JAW PLIERS: these pliers are useful on soft materials in thicker sizes only. Harder materials will damage the plier. The tip is too fat for smaller rings.
BENT NOSE PLIERS: these pliers can be used like a chain nose as well as like a wide nose (with more plier making contact with the ring). These tests were done with more jaw in contact with the ring. The best use of these pliers is in your off hand with a wide or chain in your primary hand.
The limiting factor for this piece of data is the tip size of the plier. In certain weaves you will always need a finer tip to get into the weave. The data shown here is for a middle ring in a byzantine weave. This is a very forgiving weave in most cases but if you need to get into the weave to say touch up a closure your pliers tips need to fit.
The following is the list of ring sizes used for the byzantine weave tip test:
18g 5/32", 19g 9/64", 20g 7/64", 22g 3/32", 24g 5/64"
As with the max thickness test, a skilled mailler can use a fat jawed plier to close a tiny ring in a weave, but again that is not the point of this data. We tested with average skill in mind.
Also as with the max test if you intend on doing an entire project in the minimum size listed you will find it easier to use pliers that are rated with a smaller minimum. The minimum listed is the edge, not the easiest.
12g = 0.1' = 2.4mm = 12g SWG = 10g AWG
14g = 0.08' = 2.0mm = 14g SWG = 12g AWG
16g = 0.63' = 1.6mm = 16g SWG = 14g AWG
18g = 0.48' = 1.2mm = 18g SWG = 16g AWG
19g = 0.4' = 1.0mm = 19g SWG = 18g AWG
20g = 0.32' = 0.8mm = 20g AWG
TRL Product Code | Description | Price Point | Max Recommended Wire Thickness (*See Notes Above) | Minimum Recommended Size (*See Notes Above) | |||
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Wide Nose Pliers | Stainless and Titanium (SS/TI): | Copper (CU): | Bronze and Brass (BZ/BJR): | Aluminum (anodized AA and bright AB): | |||
KXPLIERWIDE | The Ring Lord brand - Specially designed for TRL and great for chainmail! No teeth, light spring, box joint. Inexpensive. Size of tips may vary. | $ | 16g | 12g | 16g | 12g | 20g |
Kxergo-wide | Wide Nose Plier - Ergonomic handle. No teeth, light spring, lap joint. Inexpensive and size of tips may vary. |
$ | 16g | 12g | 16g | 12g | 20g |
KX3711125 | Knipex Watchmakers Plier - Wide nose. No teeth, no spring, box joint. Edge is slightly beveled so they won't cut into the rings. Made in Germany. |
$$$ | 16g | 12g | 16g | 12g | 20g |
KX3512115 | Knipex Electronics Pliers - Flat wide jaws. No teeth, light spring, box joint. Durable precision tool. Electrically discharging handles - dissipative. |
$$$$$ | 16g | 12g | 16g | 12g | 20g |
Flat Nose Pliers | |||||||
KX-ErgoLine | Ergonomic Linesmans Plier - 120mm long. With teeth, spring, lap joint. Recommended for small hands. Excellent for tougher rings in tighter spaces. |
$ | 14g | 12g | 14g | 12g | 19g |
KX-smlines | Small Linesmans Plier - 120mm long. With teeth, spring, lap joint. Recommended for small hands. Excellent for tougher rings in tighter spaces. |
$ | 14g | 12g | 14g | 12g | 19g |
KX2001125 | Knipex Flatnose Plier - 125mm long. Fine teeth, no spring, lap joint. Recommended for small hands. Made in Germany. |
$$$ | 14g | 12g | 14g | 12g | 18g |
KX2001140 | Knipex Flatnose Plier - 140 mm long. Fine teeth, no spring, lap joint. Recommended for average sized hands. Made in Germany. |
$$$ | 14g | 12g | 14g | 12g | 18g |
KX2001160 | Knipex Flatnose Plier - 160 mm long. Fine teeth, no spring, lap joint. Recommened for large hands. Made in Germany. |
$$$ | 14g | 12g | 14g | 12g | 18g |
KX200-ERGOMOD | Modified Knipex 2002160 Plier - Used by Professional Armorers! Ergonomic handles.Ultimate plier for larger stainless and titanium rings. Works well with all materials. Not recommended for 20g and thinner. | $$$$ | 12g | 12g | 12g | 12g | 18g |
KX200-MOD | Modified Knipex 2001160 Plier - Used by Professional Armorers! Ultimate plier for larger stainless and titanium rings. Works well with all materials. Not recommended for 20g and thinner. | $$$$ | 12g | 12g | 12g | 12g | 18g |
Chain Nose Pliers | |||||||
KXPLIERCHAIN | TheRingLord Brand - No teeth, light spring, box joint. Inexpensive and size of tips may vary. |
$ | 18g | 14g | 16g | 14g | 22g |
KX475 | Xuron Short Nose Plier - No teeth, light spring, lap joint. Very small and great for mico-maille. Not recommended for larger than 19g. Made in USA. |
$$ | 18g | 14g | 16g | 14g | 24g |
KX485 | Xuron Long Nose Plier - Longer version of the 475. No teeth, light spring, lap joint. Very small and great for mico-maille. Not recommended for larger than 19g rings. Made in USA. |
$$ | 20g | 18g | 20g | 18g | 24g |
KXTWEEZERNOSE | Xuron Tweezernose Plier - Ultimate needle nose. Tip about 2mm wide. No teeth, light spring, lap joint. |
$$ | 20g | 18g | 20g | 18g | 24g |
KX3731125 | Knipex Watchmakers Plier - Narrow nose, no teeth, no spring, lap joint. Durable precision tool. Made in Germany |
$$$ | 18g | 14g | 16g | 14g | 22g |
KX3522115 | Knipex Electronics Pliers - Chain nose, no teeth, light spring, box joint. Durable precision tool. Electrically discharging handles - dissipative. |
$$$$$ | 18g | 14g | 16g | 14g | 22g |
Round Nose Pliers | |||||||
KxErgo-Round | Round nose. Ergonomic handle, light spring, lap joint. | $ | 20g | 16g | 18g | 16g | Not Applicable |
Kxprem-Round | Premium round nose pliers. Light spring, box joint. German made. |
$ | 19g | 16g | 18g | 16g | Not Applicable |
KX488 | Xuron (488) - Light spring, lap joint. Round tip transitions to elliptical shape along length of tip. Ideal for forming or looping of very fine wire in precision work. Made in USA |
$$ | 20g | 18g | 18g | 18g | Not Applicable |
KX3741125 | Knipex Watchmakers Plier - Round nose, no spring, lap joint Made in Germany. |
$$$ | 19g | 16g | 18g | 16g | Not Applicable |
Nylon Jaw Pliers | |||||||
KXPLIERNYLON | Nylon Jaw Plier - Smooth nylon jaws, no spring, box joint. High quality plier. | $$ | Not recommended | Not recommended | Not recommended | 12g | 18g |
Bent Nose Pliers | |||||||
Kxergo-bentyellow | Bent Nose with ergonomic handle. No teeth, light spring, lap joint. |